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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:56 pm

Not D-I, but here's an odd story:

D-III powerhouse St. Thomas of Minnesota has been kicked out of the Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference due to its "competitive" advantages: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor ... icked-miac

Translation: They were kicking too much @$$ and the rest of the conference didn't want to be the whipping boys anymore.

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by TheAsianSensation » Thu May 23, 2019 1:56 pm

St. Thomas to the Summit in 8 years :jokerc
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by squirrel » Fri May 24, 2019 6:10 am

I so wish there was a defenestration joke in there somewhere.
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by deejay » Fri May 24, 2019 10:33 am

Minnesota has always made a lot of politically and athletically odd decisions.
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by squirrel » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:30 pm

In one of the least surprising reclassifications: Bellarmine will reclassify to DI and join the A-Sun in 2020.
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:12 pm

squirrel wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:30 pm
In one of the least surprising reclassifications: Bellarmine will reclassify to DI and join the A-Sun in 2020.
http://asunsports.org/general/2018-19/r ... 0617o5yrum

The school currently plays in the D-II Great Lakes Valley Conference with state of Illinois schools such as UIS, Lewis University, McKendree, and Quincy University.

Bellarmine's men lacrosse was playing in D-I already and will remain as members of the SoCon in that sport. The only Bellarmine sports that won't join a D-I conference upon moving up are field hockey and wrestling which will compete as D-I Independents.

The move gets the A-Sun back up to 10 members, after dropping to 9 members following USC Upstate's move to the Big South last year.

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by TheAsianSensation » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:11 pm

squirrel wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:30 pm
In one of the least surprising reclassifications: Bellarmine will reclassify to DI and join the A-Sun in 2020.
O/U time spent in the A-Fun: 7 years

They're on their way up.
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TheAsianSensation wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 1:56 pm
St. Thomas to the Summit in 8 years :jokerc
If that happens, something tells me they'll beat the WIU men in basketball. :cry:

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by illini25 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:46 am

squirrel wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:30 pm
In one of the least surprising reclassifications: Bellarmine will reclassify to DI and join the A-Sun in 2020.
My kid was a GLVC student-athlete. Bellarmine’s sports have been middle-of-the pack GLVC for the most part. The campus is nice but athletic facilities aren’t outstanding for D2. This seems like it will take quite a bit of money for Bellarmine to upgrade facilities and recruiting budgets.

Last FAQ discusses increased cost.

https://www.bellarmine.edu/bellarmine-rising/#FAQs
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by TheAsianSensation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:49 am

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I keep expecting the WAC to die. But they keep adding schools a year or two ahead of time. Cal Baptist and Dixie St will be ready by the time UMKC abandones them, and Chicagi St folds.
Prophetic, I must say

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/um ... in-2020-21

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:19 am

TheAsianSensation wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:49 am
TheAsianSensation wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:12 am
I keep expecting the WAC to die. But they keep adding schools a year or two ahead of time. Cal Baptist and Dixie St will be ready by the time UMKC abandones them, and Chicagi St folds.
Prophetic, I must say

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/um ... in-2020-21

UMKC rights their wrong of a few years ago.
What was the reasoning UMKC had for going to the WAC in the first place?

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:25 am

UConn on verge of joining Big East for all sports except football in 2020: https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-hu ... story.html

Though the school has yet to receive an official invitation from the Big East, the school expects it and their announcement of the move to be forthcoming.

Where the sticking point comes for the school is what to do with their football program as it is unlikely the AAC would want them as a football-only member. The football program may end up as an independent in this situation. Brett McMurphy brought up the possibility of the Huskies playing in a conference like the MAC or C-USA.

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Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:34 am

Pete Thamel in his article on Yahoo Sports brought up Army or Air Force as potential football only replacement in the AAC with a school like VCU as the replacement for all other sports.

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by squirrel » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:54 am

illini25 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:46 am
squirrel wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:30 pm
In one of the least surprising reclassifications: Bellarmine will reclassify to DI and join the A-Sun in 2020.
My kid was a GLVC student-athlete. Bellarmine’s sports have been middle-of-the pack GLVC for the most part. The campus is nice but athletic facilities aren’t outstanding for D2. This seems like it will take quite a bit of money for Bellarmine to upgrade facilities and recruiting budgets.

Last FAQ discusses increased cost.

https://www.bellarmine.edu/bellarmine-rising/#FAQs
Right, but they also have a strategic plan to be the most significant Catholic University in the South by 2030. Something they seem on their way to achieving. I would suppose the facility upgrades and improvements have been part of that.
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by squirrel » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:01 am

Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:19 am
TheAsianSensation wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:49 am
TheAsianSensation wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:12 am
I keep expecting the WAC to die. But they keep adding schools a year or two ahead of time. Cal Baptist and Dixie St will be ready by the time UMKC abandones them, and Chicagi St folds.
Prophetic, I must say

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/um ... in-2020-21

UMKC rights their wrong of a few years ago.
What was the reasoning UMKC had for going to the WAC in the first place?
It was two-fold: 1) The Summit League kept adding new teams that were often times better than UMKC in basketball. 2) The WAC gave them the opportunity with some awful programs, some DI newbies, but also a quality school in New Mexico State, to make some noise a new league.

Obviously, they were unable to capitalize, and with Grand Canyon being good, and Cal Baptist and Utah Valley being competent, the field isn't getting any easier in the WAC.
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expected to rejoin the Big East.

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by TheAsianSensation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:57 pm

Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:19 am
TheAsianSensation wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:49 am
TheAsianSensation wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:12 am
I keep expecting the WAC to die. But they keep adding schools a year or two ahead of time. Cal Baptist and Dixie St will be ready by the time UMKC abandones them, and Chicagi St folds.
Prophetic, I must say

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/um ... in-2020-21

UMKC rights their wrong of a few years ago.
What was the reasoning UMKC had for going to the WAC in the first place?
There was also the idea of a conference with schools in big cities would work. Denver, Seattle, Chicago, Kansas City.

It didn't work.
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Post by TheAsianSensation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:04 pm

Poor UMKC gets overshadowed today in realignment news :lol:
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Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:14 pm

Brett McMurphy looks at how UConn's move to the Big East will affect the college football landscape: https://watchstadium.com/news/how-uconn ... 6-24-2019/

Sounds like UConn football to the MAC and C-USA are at a slim chance. He mentions Army and BYU as potential replacements for football in the AAC.

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Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:35 pm

UConn Board of Trustees has approved the school's move to the Big East.

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Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:33 pm

Pat Forde on the winners and losers of the past decade of realignment in college sports: https://sports.yahoo.com/winners-and-lo ... 01059.html

TAS and Squirrel, would you agree with who Forde has as the winners and losers in all this?

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Post by squirrel » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:18 am

Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:33 pm
Pat Forde on the winners and losers of the past decade of realignment in college sports: https://sports.yahoo.com/winners-and-lo ... 01059.html

TAS and Squirrel, would you agree with who Forde has as the winners and losers in all this?
I don't understand UConn to the Big East at all. In most instances, I can see/understand the rationale. But a shady public school (referring to their history of ignoring academics and other issues) joining an all private league where football is irrelevant. . .the Big East split for that very reason. Why go down that path again? Why don't they partner with UMass and try to create a new league or do something together?

SLU is a big loser too, with that move, because they were probably on the outside looking in to the Big East anyway. So now that they have opened the door for public schools. . . :lol:
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by Dallas Brave » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:04 pm

squirrel wrote:
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I don't understand UConn to the Big East at all. In most instances, I can see/understand the rationale. But a shady public school (referring to their history of ignoring academics and other issues) joining an all private league where football is irrelevant. . .the Big East split for that very reason. Why go down that path again? Why don't they partner with UMass and try to create a new league or do something together?

SLU is a big loser too, with that move, because they were probably on the outside looking in to the Big East anyway. So now that they have opened the door for public schools. . . :lol:
If UConn joining the Big East does close the door on SLU and Dayton, I think it could well be the right time to revisit creating a new conference of highly ranked academic, private schools in the MW / NE who are committed to fielding quality D1 basketball programs. The A10 still has several public schools and I think an opportunity to become part of a conference that could be branded for academics would be appealing.

My first cut would be:
East: Drexel, Bucknell, George Washington (or American), Dayton, Belmont, and St. Joe's
West: SLU, Bradley, Drake, Loyola, Valpo, and Denver (DU is a bit of a stretch, but a great school academically and an attractive market)

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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by TheAsianSensation » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:14 pm

squirrel wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:18 am
Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:33 pm
Pat Forde on the winners and losers of the past decade of realignment in college sports: https://sports.yahoo.com/winners-and-lo ... 01059.html

TAS and Squirrel, would you agree with who Forde has as the winners and losers in all this?
I don't understand UConn to the Big East at all. In most instances, I can see/understand the rationale. But a shady public school (referring to their history of ignoring academics and other issues) joining an all private league where football is irrelevant. . .the Big East split for that very reason. Why go down that path again? Why don't they partner with UMass and try to create a new league or do something together?

SLU is a big loser too, with that move, because they were probably on the outside looking in to the Big East anyway. So now that they have opened the door for public schools. . . :lol:
I have to imagine UConn burying their football program is part of the deal. On that front, I think the move makes sense. Basketball brand joins conference with basketball brand.
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Re: TAS and Squirrel Re-Construct DI

Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:46 pm

TAS and Squirrel, either of you wanna take an over/under on how long this holds true for Aresco and the AAC?:


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