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2017-2018 IHSA Classifications announced

Post by crkamm » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:41 pm

IIHSA has released classification and enrollment #s
First thing I noticed, Washington and Peoria High will now be 3A in boys and girls Field & Track.
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crkamm wrote:
Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:41 pm
IIHSA has released classification and enrollment #s
First thing I noticed, Washington and Peoria High will now be 3A in boys and girls Field & Track.
Peoria Notre Dame as well.

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Post by crkamm » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:55 pm

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IIHSA has released classification and enrollment #s
First thing I noticed, Washington and Peoria High will now be 3A in boys and girls Field & Track.
Peoria Notre Dame as well.
PND still listed as 2A for both boys and girls.
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Bloomington and Peoria High 4A in basketball

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Bloomington and Peoria High 4A in basketball
That might be good news and bad news for Pekin. The good news is that now maybe Pekin can actually play a regional in central Illinois instead of traveling all over the state. The bad news is that Bloomington and Central will be in Pekin's regional - doubtful Pekin gets a win. Of course Pekin wasn't have much luck in the quad cities or wherever. I hope that can lump Bloomington/Normal/Peoria with Pekin. Of course I don't know how the IHSA will do the scheduling. Maybe Pekin still goes to the quad cities with Central...

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BTW, if Pekin keeps dropping their enrollment it might not be long before they drop to 6A in football. Shoot, they dropped by 175 in their enrollment just last year. :shock: In 5-10 years they might be 3A in most sports. It wouldn't help that much on the field or court but it would be nice to play local teams come tournament time....

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Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:41 am
BTW, if Pekin keeps dropping their enrollment it might not be long before they drop to 6A in football. Shoot, they dropped by 175 in their enrollment just last year. :shock: In 5-10 years they might be 3A in most sports. It wouldn't help that much on the field or court but it would be nice to play local teams come tournament time....
What was the peak enrollment at Pekin? I seem to remember it in the 2400-2500 neighborhood.
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Reggie wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:10 pm
CIS wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:41 am
BTW, if Pekin keeps dropping their enrollment it might not be long before they drop to 6A in football. Shoot, they dropped by 175 in their enrollment just last year. :shock: In 5-10 years they might be 3A in most sports. It wouldn't help that much on the field or court but it would be nice to play local teams come tournament time....
What was the peak enrollment at Pekin? I seem to remember it in the 2400-2500 neighborhood.
Hard to believe but 3400-3600 was peak back in the 1970's - had almost 800 in my graduation class. In fact this year's enrollment is smallest since the early 1960's....

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CIS wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:11 pm
Reggie wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:10 pm
CIS wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:41 am
BTW, if Pekin keeps dropping their enrollment it might not be long before they drop to 6A in football. Shoot, they dropped by 175 in their enrollment just last year. :shock: In 5-10 years they might be 3A in most sports. It wouldn't help that much on the field or court but it would be nice to play local teams come tournament time....
What was the peak enrollment at Pekin? I seem to remember it in the 2400-2500 neighborhood.
Hard to believe but 3400-3600 was peak back in the 1970's - had almost 800 in my graduation class. In fact this year's enrollment is smallest since the early 1960's....
I guess that is not all that surprising considering that Metamora's enrollment was at 950 in the mid 70's before falling to the 700's in the 80's. Only over the past decade has it come back up to the 70's numbers.
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Post by CIS » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:58 pm

It is interesting to look at area schools. Metamora's enrollment like you said, is actually about where it was in the 1970's. Washington's is down about 300 from the late 1970's - they had 1600 students according to one program I have. East Peoria had 2000 students in the early 1970's while Richwoods peak was 2400 in the late 196'0's-early 1970's. Richwoods lost some when Peoria Heights opened in the early 1970's. Manual peak enrollment was 1600 in the late 1960's while Central had a peak of 2400 students. Dunlap is the one area school that has grown immensely - they had 300-400 students back in the 1970's. Spalding and Bergen had 900 and 650 students back in the 1970's. I am not sure what Morton's or Canton's peak enrollment were...

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Post by Leatherneck » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:51 pm

CIS wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:58 pm
It is interesting to look at area schools. Metamora's enrollment like you said, is actually about where it was in the 1970's. Washington's is down about 300 from the late 1970's - they had 1600 students according to one program I have. East Peoria had 2000 students in the early 1970's while Richwoods peak was 2400 in the late 196'0's-early 1970's. Richwoods lost some when Peoria Heights opened in the early 1970's. Manual peak enrollment was 1600 in the late 1960's while Central had a peak of 2400 students. Dunlap is the one area school that has grown immensely - they had 300-400 students back in the 1970's. Spalding and Bergen had 900 and 650 students back in the 1970's. I am not sure what Morton's or Canton's peak enrollment were...
And you could go even farther back to the 1950s/60s--pre-suburban Metamora and Morton during that time (plus IVC, then Chillicothe High) were in the same conference with the likes of Eureka, Tremont and Farmington during those decades (Illio). Anyone know the 50s/60s enrollments for area schools?

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Post by CIS » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:48 pm

Limestone had 1600 students in the late 1960's and the 1970's - so they have dropped by about 600. Galesburg has really taken a hit, they are down by over a 1000 students since the early 1970's when they had around 2400 students....

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Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:48 pm
Limestone had 1600 students in the late 1960's and the 1970's - so they have dropped by about 600. Galesburg has really taken a hit, they are down by over a 1000 students since the early 1970's when they had around 2400 students....
One of the things that fascinates me about high school football is seeing how enrollments change through the years. One of the more storied Metamora playoff wins was in 1976 when they overcame a 21-0 halftime deficit to win 22-21. The opponent that night was Momence...who a few years back played Dee-Mack in the playoffs. :shock:

It is interesting to read the historical playoff scores for the different schools to see how many teams that were once in the same class are now 2-3 classes away. Just crazy how things change over the years.
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Post by CIS » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:33 am

Reggie wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:04 pm
CIS wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:48 pm
Limestone had 1600 students in the late 1960's and the 1970's - so they have dropped by about 600. Galesburg has really taken a hit, they are down by over a 1000 students since the early 1970's when they had around 2400 students....
One of the things that fascinates me about high school football is seeing how enrollments change through the years. One of the more storied Metamora playoff wins was in 1976 when they overcame a 21-0 halftime deficit to win 22-21. The opponent that night was Momence...who a few years back played Dee-Mack in the playoffs. :shock:

It is interesting to read the historical playoff scores for the different schools to see how many teams that were once in the same class are now 2-3 classes away. Just crazy how things change over the years.
Yeah it is interesting. And then you have some schools like Dunlap who have moved up 2 or 3 classes...

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Post by Leatherneck » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:00 pm

Reggie wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:04 pm

One of the things that fascinates me about high school football is seeing how enrollments change through the years. One of the more storied Metamora playoff wins was in 1976 when they overcame a 21-0 halftime deficit to win 22-21. The opponent that night was Momence...who a few years back played Dee-Mack in the playoffs. :shock:
Also Metamora was Class A during the first two seasons of 2-class hoops (1971-72 and 1972-73). The Redbirds even hosted one of the first Class A regionals in '72 (feeding into that year's Wenona Sectional and Pontiac super); that regional was won by Toluca (59-57 in OT over Henry).

Unfortunately, Metamora basketball went 0-2 in their brief Class A postseason history; one and done both years, losing to Henry both seasons.

1972 Class A regional results: https://sites.google.com/site/xtmi2000/il1972areg (scroll to Wenona Sectional and Metamora regional)

1973 Class A regional results: https://sites.google.com/site/xtmi2000/il1973areg (under Wenona Sectional and Roanoke regional).

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Post by CIS » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:10 pm

Metamora did make it to the Peoria sectionals in 1977. I remember because I was in high school and Pekin beat Metamora by five points or so. It was a tough game. Pekin then played Central for the sectional championship and gave the Lions a good game but lost by 8-10 points. I was at that game and the fieldhouse was packed with over 7000 people. Central went on to win the IHSA AA title that year - a really good team with Ruffin, Gower, Banks and so forth. And I will tell you that the Metamora football teams of the mid 1970's that went to state would have competed and maybe even won the MS-9 conference, they were that good!

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Leatherneck wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:51 pm
CIS wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:58 pm
It is interesting to look at area schools. Metamora's enrollment like you said, is actually about where it was in the 1970's. Washington's is down about 300 from the late 1970's - they had 1600 students according to one program I have. East Peoria had 2000 students in the early 1970's while Richwoods peak was 2400 in the late 196'0's-early 1970's. Richwoods lost some when Peoria Heights opened in the early 1970's. Manual peak enrollment was 1600 in the late 1960's while Central had a peak of 2400 students. Dunlap is the one area school that has grown immensely - they had 300-400 students back in the 1970's. Spalding and Bergen had 900 and 650 students back in the 1970's. I am not sure what Morton's or Canton's peak enrollment were...
And you could go even farther back to the 1950s/60s--pre-suburban Metamora and Morton during that time (plus IVC, then Chillicothe High) were in the same conference with the likes of Eureka, Tremont and Farmington during those decades (Illio). Anyone know the 50s/60s enrollments for area schools?
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Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:00 pm
Reggie wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:04 pm

One of the things that fascinates me about high school football is seeing how enrollments change through the years. One of the more storied Metamora playoff wins was in 1976 when they overcame a 21-0 halftime deficit to win 22-21. The opponent that night was Momence...who a few years back played Dee-Mack in the playoffs. :shock:
Also Metamora was Class A during the first two seasons of 2-class hoops (1971-72 and 1972-73). The Redbirds even hosted one of the first Class A regionals in '72 (feeding into that year's Wenona Sectional and Pontiac super); that regional was won by Toluca (59-57 in OT over Henry).

Unfortunately, Metamora basketball went 0-2 in their brief Class A postseason history; one and done both years, losing to Henry both seasons.

1972 Class A regional results: https://sites.google.com/site/xtmi2000/il1972areg (scroll to Wenona Sectional and Metamora regional)

1973 Class A regional results: https://sites.google.com/site/xtmi2000/il1973areg (under Wenona Sectional and Roanoke regional).
Speaking of Metamora, the old Illio Conference, and the first class A boys basketball tourney in 1972, Metamora's old Illio rival Farmington (technically referred to as "Farmington East" by the IHSA that year) made the first Class A Sweet Sixteen that year even with a 16-12 record (losing to Thomson in that year's East Moline super).

I thought the enrollments of all Sweet Sixteen teams in the inaugural Class A tourney in '72 was on the IHSA tournament history page, but it looks like only that year's Elite 8 had the enrollments listed. But I thought I had seen somewhere that Farmington was actually in the mid-600s or something around there for enrollment in the 1971-72 school year. And this was 15 years before Yates City consolidated their school district into Farmington (YC seemed to always be in the 100ish range during the 70s and 80s before they consolidated with Farmington in 1987). So the large enrollment was just Farmington, Trivoli, Hanna City, and Middlegrove (not sure if Norris goes to Farmington or Canton)--had Yates City been with Farmington 15 years earlier the Farmers would actually have been a Class AA team in at least the first season or two of 2-class hoops.

When the Farmers made their first Elite Eight run under Coach Wierzba in 1990 (3 years after Yates City and Farmington merged, and just two years away from them and Knoxville joining the Olympic Conference in '92-93), their enrollment was 511.

Of course, the closure of the mines in the Farmington/Middlegrove/Trivoli areas, closure of IH, Caterpillar's layoffs in the 80s, 80s farm economy struggles, and the declining west central Illinois economy did a number on Farmington's enrollment since '72 (even after their Yates City consolidation).

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Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:10 pm
Metamora did make it to the Peoria sectionals in 1977. I remember because I was in high school and Pekin beat Metamora by five points or so. It was a tough game. Pekin then played Central for the sectional championship and gave the Lions a good game but lost by 8-10 points. I was at that game and the fieldhouse was packed with over 7000 people. Central went on to win the IHSA AA title that year - a really good team with Ruffin, Gower, Banks and so forth. And I will tell you that the Metamora football teams of the mid 1970's that went to state would have competed and maybe even won the MS-9 conference, they were that good!
That Metamora-Pekin sectional game was my first at the fieldhouse. As I recall the Chinks may have benefited from a call or two. ;)
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Leatherneck wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:00 pm
Reggie wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:04 pm

One of the things that fascinates me about high school football is seeing how enrollments change through the years. One of the more storied Metamora playoff wins was in 1976 when they overcame a 21-0 halftime deficit to win 22-21. The opponent that night was Momence...who a few years back played Dee-Mack in the playoffs. :shock:
Also Metamora was Class A during the first two seasons of 2-class hoops (1971-72 and 1972-73). The Redbirds even hosted one of the first Class A regionals in '72 (feeding into that year's Wenona Sectional and Pontiac super); that regional was won by Toluca (59-57 in OT over Henry).

Unfortunately, Metamora basketball went 0-2 in their brief Class A postseason history; one and done both years, losing to Henry both seasons.

1972 Class A regional results: https://sites.google.com/site/xtmi2000/il1972areg (scroll to Wenona Sectional and Metamora regional)

1973 Class A regional results: https://sites.google.com/site/xtmi2000/il1973areg (under Wenona Sectional and Roanoke regional).
Sadly just more chapters in Metamora's sorry basketball history. To my knowledge (which is much more limited than in football) the program is still seeking out their first sectional victory. In fact in my lifetime I believe they have only led in a second half in a sectional once- in 2006 against Washington.
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Post by UT Vols » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:40 pm

Now Reggie, you know there were suspect calls in '87 vs Central...
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Now Reggie, you know there were suspect calls in '87 vs Central...
I remember Metamora lacked the athleticism of Central. Apparently that mattered more in the game than the pregame movie. ;)
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