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Re: Boya

Post by dogsrus » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:04 pm

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Boya = Too raw, great potential after 2 to 3 years, if he works hard.
LVB = Too hesitant in taking 3 point shots, lacks confidence most of the time.
Kennel = Lost his confidence lately, but he is a tough fighter, has an admirable attitude.
DLO = Has been OK, but not impressive as in pre-season.
Bar = Has been OK but inconsistent. Gets into foul trouble easily.
Childs = Needs to be more in the paint, he is our best player, most effective in the paint.
DB = Forces shots and commits turnovers, needs to share the ball more, otherwise he is excellent.
Hodgson = Average bench player, slows the tempo and protects the ball.
Henry = Deserves more play time, turns over the ball more than necessary. Needs competitive experience.
Lundy = Limited talent but tries hard.
Pittman = Great on defense, must improve offense.

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Re: Boya

Post by BradleyBrave » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:10 pm

I’m not sure what the bigger lie was - Boya being a difference maker this year, or Pittman being some sort of defensive wizard. Pittman is terrible at everything, including defense.
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Re: Boya

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I’m not sure what the bigger lie was - Boya being a difference maker this year, or Pittman being some sort of defensive wizard. Pittman is terrible at everything, including defense.
The problem with making these kinds of statements is that eventually games are played and the truth comes out.
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Re: Boya

Post by HoustonBrave » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:06 pm

I’m not sure what the bigger lie was - Boya being a difference maker this year, or Pittman being some sort of defensive wizard. Pittman is terrible at everything, including defense.

Pittman's defense is generally great, unless he gets into foul trouble (which often happens) or sees limited minutes because of lack of offensive contribution (which also often happens). I agree that both him and Boya have NOT met the very high exceptions thrown around in the early Fall. Maybe we are a bit too harsh, but there is a reason why we own a 0-5 record so far in the MVC. If each player does NOT seriously work on addressing his weaknesses, then we will never improve as a team!

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Re: Boya

Post by ER3 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:12 pm

BradleyBrave wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:10 pm
I’m not sure what the bigger lie was - Boya being a difference maker this year, or Pittman being some sort of defensive wizard. Pittman is terrible at everything, including defense.
#TheArrival was the biggest lie of them all.

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Re: Boya

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Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:12 pm
BradleyBrave wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:10 pm
I’m not sure what the bigger lie was - Boya being a difference maker this year, or Pittman being some sort of defensive wizard. Pittman is terrible at everything, including defense.
#TheArrival was the biggest lie of them all.
We must have hired the Trump twitter account to provide this year's PR. ;) :joker
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Re: Boya

Post by SFP » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm

Boya is a freshman big and unless you're a McDonald All American big chances are that you'll be a somewhat project. I never thought he'd be a savior so I'm not disappointed one bit in his play. Now if he does not put in the time in the off season to hone his game and we do not see a market improvement that will be on him.

I'm more disappointed in KB and EC's game, especially EC. I really do not see much more of an upside from KB next year. There's a certain type of mental toughness that he just does not have. That does not make him a bad person. EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
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Re: Boya

Post by real fan » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:34 pm

I was told by a lot of persons that had seen us practice many times that Boya was going to be a huge difference maker immediately. I forgot about the fact that they more then likely look great going against our team in practice. I was told the same thing about Shaw awhile back and look how that turned out. I will no longer listen to all the hype and make a determination on my own. Henry to me is our best freshman recruit as far as offense goes, he has made mistakes like a true freshman yet had he been played more his offensive numbers would be better then more then half of the team.

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Re: Boya

Post by real fan » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:37 pm

SFP wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm
Boya is a freshman big and unless you're a McDonald All American big chances are that you'll be a somewhat project. I never thought he'd be a savior so I'm not disappointed one bit in his play. Now if he does not put in the time in the off season to hone his game and we do not see a market improvement that will be on him.

I'm more disappointed in KB and EC's game, especially EC. I really do not see much more of an upside from KB next year. There's a certain type of mental toughness that he just does not have. That does not make him a bad person. EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
EC would if we put him down low minus Bar or Boya whom clog up the lane which hurts his ability to get the ball more in a position to score.

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Re: Boya

Post by Braves4Life » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:38 pm

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EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
I think part of the problem is that his ceiling is nowhere near as high as several having been saying. He has the potential to be a nice player when he's surrounded by quality players. Childs reminds me of Ken Garrett, a Stowell holdover, who played second fiddle to JJ Anderson in Versace's first two seasons.
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Re: Boya

Post by SFP » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:43 pm

Braves4Life wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:38 pm
SFP wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm
EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
I think part of the problem is that his ceiling is nowhere near as high as several having been saying. He has the potential to be a nice player when he's surrounded by quality players. Childs reminds me of Ken Garrett, a Stowell holdover, who played second fiddle to JJ Anderson in Versace's first two seasons.
I see a real quality player that is going through the motions. I disagree with you here. He's quite not an NBA player but one that could have a very nice pro career if he puts in the work. You can't ask much more for a Valley players.
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Re: Boya

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SFP wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:43 pm
Braves4Life wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:38 pm
SFP wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm
EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
I think part of the problem is that his ceiling is nowhere near as high as several having been saying. He has the potential to be a nice player when he's surrounded by quality players. Childs reminds me of Ken Garrett, a Stowell holdover, who played second fiddle to JJ Anderson in Versace's first two seasons.
I see a real quality player that is going through the motions. I disagree with you here. He's quite not an NBA player but one that could have a very nice pro career if he puts in the work. You can't ask much more for a Valley players.
Hes not close to Deon Jackson or Marcellus Sommerville.
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Re: Boya

Post by jim beam » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:23 am

Braves4Life wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:38 pm
SFP wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm
EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
I think part of the problem is that his ceiling is nowhere near as high as several having been saying. He has the potential to be a nice player when he's surrounded by quality players. Childs reminds me of Ken Garrett, a Stowell holdover, who played second fiddle to JJ Anderson in Versace's first two seasons.
If he is close to Kenny Garret, Ill take it...Wish he had a little Robert Jenkins in him tho
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Re: Boya

Post by Braves4Life » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:31 am

jim beam wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:23 am
Braves4Life wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:38 pm
SFP wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm
EC on the other hand has such a high ceiling that he should be dominating.
I think part of the problem is that his ceiling is nowhere near as high as several having been saying. He has the potential to be a nice player when he's surrounded by quality players. Childs reminds me of Ken Garrett, a Stowell holdover, who played second fiddle to JJ Anderson in Versace's first two seasons.
If he is close to Kenny Garret, Ill take it...Wish he had a little Robert Jenkins in him tho
I'll take it if Henry can develop into a Jenkins-type, or even a Bobby Ford.
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Re: Boya

Post by real fan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:03 am

Braves4Life wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:31 am
jim beam wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:23 am
Braves4Life wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:38 pm


I think part of the problem is that his ceiling is nowhere near as high as several having been saying. He has the potential to be a nice player when he's surrounded by quality players. Childs reminds me of Ken Garrett, a Stowell holdover, who played second fiddle to JJ Anderson in Versace's first two seasons.
If he is close to Kenny Garret, Ill take it...Wish he had a little Robert Jenkins in him tho
I'll take it if Henry can develop into a Jenkins-type, or even a Bobby Ford.
He will turn into a decent player for someone else as with the way he has been treated why would he stay at Bradley.

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Re: Boya

Post by HoustonBrave » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:20 pm

The problem is that scouts have figured out that if DB and Childs are tightly defended, then our other offensive options are somewhat limited. DB has been trying to carry the team on his own (which is mission-impossible), and Child's paint-area has been crowded by fellow tall teammates &/or by being double-defended, so he is forced out of the paint area. Thus we tend to become a "one-man show" with DB forcing shots &/or turning the ball over too much. Bar and DLO may get +/- 10 points each per game if we are lucky, but that is NOT enough for us to beat any MVC opponent. Nate Kennel has been struggling lately. So, we simply are in a tough situation, especially when a senior like LVB plays tentative and lacks confidence in his 3 points shots. We simply have limited offense, and scouts figured that out. Looks like it is going to be a long season, hope I am wrong!

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Re: Boya

Post by SaintLouBrave22 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:41 pm

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He will turn into a decent player for someone else as with the way he has been treated why would he stay at Bradley.
I hope he does better, but it doesnt help Bradley either if he stays but they never let him play.
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Post by BradleyBrave » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:24 pm

I’d make up an injury and redshirt him at this point. Henry can take those minutes in a pinch. He doesn’t have a role this season and isn’t ready. I don’t care if he leaves as a 5th year...he’s got a LONG way to go before he’s that good.
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Re: Boya

Post by tribecalledquest » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:32 pm

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I’d make up an injury and redshirt him at this point. Henry can take those minutes in a pinch. He doesn’t have a role this season and isn’t ready. I don’t care if he leaves as a 5th year...he’s got a LONG way to go before he’s that good.
I don’t think they can redshirt him at this point. I’d have to research the rules but it might be too late in the season.
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Re: Boya

Post by Braves4Life » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:51 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:32 pm
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I’d make up an injury and redshirt him at this point. Henry can take those minutes in a pinch. He doesn’t have a role this season and isn’t ready. I don’t care if he leaves as a 5th year...he’s got a LONG way to go before he’s that good.
I don’t think they can redshirt him at this point. I’d have to research the rules but it might be too late in the season.
Isn't it the 20% of games played rule? Boya's played in 8 which would be 2 more than allowed.
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Re: Boya

Post by Disturbed » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:54 pm

Braves4Life wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:51 pm
tribecalledquest wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:32 pm
BradleyBrave wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:24 pm
I’d make up an injury and redshirt him at this point. Henry can take those minutes in a pinch. He doesn’t have a role this season and isn’t ready. I don’t care if he leaves as a 5th year...he’s got a LONG way to go before he’s that good.
I don’t think they can redshirt him at this point. I’d have to research the rules but it might be too late in the season.
Isn't it the 20% of games played rule? Boya's played in 8 which would be 2 more than allowed.
One play in basketball constitutes a whole season. He also could not get a medical redshirt because the injury has to happen in the first half of the season.

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Re: Boya

Post by tribecalledquest » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:59 pm

Braves4Life wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:51 pm
tribecalledquest wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:32 pm
BradleyBrave wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:24 pm
I’d make up an injury and redshirt him at this point. Henry can take those minutes in a pinch. He doesn’t have a role this season and isn’t ready. I don’t care if he leaves as a 5th year...he’s got a LONG way to go before he’s that good.
I don’t think they can redshirt him at this point. I’d have to research the rules but it might be too late in the season.
Isn't it the 20% of games played rule? Boya's played in 8 which would be 2 more than allowed.
True. I was thinking for a non injury redshirt.
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