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2017 Bears Draft....

Post by CIS » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:11 pm

Who would you like to see the Bears draft in the first round this year? Probably one of the more important pick with it being so high....

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Post by Redbird CC Fan » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:39 pm

CIS wrote:Who would you like to see the Bears draft in the first round this year? Probably one of the more important pick with it being so high....
Best available player regardless of position. Ideally, that player is an offensive tackle or safety / DB.
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Post by Reggie » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:05 pm

I concur that I want the best available player. Ideally that would be Myles Garrett or Jonathan Allen but I suspect they will go 1-2. The only thing that gives me hope is that Cleveland is one of those teams. :lol:
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Post by CIS » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:56 pm

Reggie wrote:I concur that I want the best available player. Ideally that would be Myles Garrett or Jonathan Allen but I suspect they will go 1-2. The only thing that gives me hope is that Cleveland is one of those teams. :lol:
Could Cleveland go for another QB??

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Post by Reggie » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:53 pm

CIS wrote:
Reggie wrote:I concur that I want the best available player. Ideally that would be Myles Garrett or Jonathan Allen but I suspect they will go 1-2. The only thing that gives me hope is that Cleveland is one of those teams. :lol:
Could Cleveland go for another QB??
I would be okay with that. Having some friends who are Browns fans I sure hope they learned their lesson from drafting Johnny Manziel but since this is the Browns we are talking about...
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Post by Redbird CC Fan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:28 pm

Bears could cut or trade Cutler, sign McNown (spelling intentional) and draft a developmental QB in the middle rounds of the draft.
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Post by Bluejaygrad03 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:27 am

Redbird CC Fan wrote:
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sign McNown (spelling intentional)
Get it right. It's spelled McGowan. :D

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Post by SS01 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Kiper-Bears should take Jonathan Allen DL Alabama
http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/1 ... ock-draft/

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Re: 2017 Bears Draft....

Post by Reggie » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:35 pm

SS01 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:02 pm
Kiper-Bears should take Jonathan Allen DL Alabama
http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/1 ... ock-draft/
I am okay with this. I will scream if they take a QB in the first round.
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Post by SS01 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:52 pm

SS01 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:02 pm
Kiper-Bears should take Jonathan Allen DL Alabama
http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/1 ... ock-draft/

What does everyone think of the QB logic expressed in the article?

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Post by Reggie » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:05 pm

SS01 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:52 pm
Kiper-Bears should take Jonathan Allen DL Alabama
http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/1 ... ock-draft/

What does everyone think of the QB logic expressed in the article?
IMO Garappolo would command too much to acquire in a trade. No reason to repeat the Rick Mirer experience. Glennon is bad and Taylor does not do much for me.

If the money is right I would have no problem with Tony Romo. It would give the Bears at least a chance to be competitive.

I am of the school that the best way to get better quick is to build up the defense. History has shown that competent QB play alongside is all that is necessary if the defense is good enough (see: Trent Dilfer and 2015 Peyton Manning). The last time the Bears made the Super Bowl they had an outstanding defense (albeit down two stars by the time the game rolled around) and a QB who on average was okay but nothing special. If the defense could add Allen AND avoid the injuries from last season (no guarantee obviously) I see no reason why they cannot be immensely improved. That along with a running game that looks very solid and the Bears could get a lot better sooner than we think.
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Post by dogsrus » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:30 pm

Reggie wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:05 pm
SS01 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:52 pm
Kiper-Bears should take Jonathan Allen DL Alabama
http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/1 ... ock-draft/

What does everyone think of the QB logic expressed in the article?
IMO Garappolo would command too much to acquire in a trade. No reason to repeat the Rick Mirer experience. Glennon is bad and Taylor does not do much for me.

If the money is right I would have no problem with Tony Romo. It would give the Bears at least a chance to be competitive.

I am of the school that the best way to get better quick is to build up the defense. History has shown that competent QB play alongside is all that is necessary if the defense is good enough (see: Trent Dilfer and 2015 Peyton Manning). The last time the Bears made the Super Bowl they had an outstanding defense (albeit down two stars by the time the game rolled around) and a QB who on average was okay but nothing special. If the defense could add Allen AND avoid the injuries from last season (no guarantee obviously) I see no reason why they cannot be immensely improved. That along with a running game that looks very solid and the Bears could get a lot better sooner than we think.
You had me until Tony.... i'm afraid the body is just beyond repair.... he reminds me of Tiger...he's just to beat up. Now take him away from a good Dallas O line and put him behind a not so good Bears line and down he goes...

I agree Garapolos price tag will be too high unless the Bears trade down and acquire multiple picks...perhaps they get a top 10 pick and another first rounder or a high 2nd rounder and can trade that...
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Re: 2017 Bears Draft....

Post by Reggie » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:13 am

I am hoping there is a QB worth taking about round three. As much as some Bears fans do not want to hear it keeping Jay Cutler may be the most feasible option. The problem I see is that if they keep him AND draft a QB that it will be Denver all over again where his feelings are hurt and he throws a tantrum.
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Re: 2017 Bears Draft....

Post by Mike Radigan » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:51 pm

Sports Talk Live on CSN Chicago is reporting Cutler is on the trading block.

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Post by salz4life » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:01 pm

Mike Radigan wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:51 pm
Sports Talk Live on CSN Chicago is reporting Cutler is on the trading block.

The laughter you hear is from the rest of the league's GMs.
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Post by Redbird CC Fan » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:08 pm

salz4life wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:01 pm
Mike Radigan wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:51 pm
Sports Talk Live on CSN Chicago is reporting Cutler is on the trading block.

The laughter you hear is from the rest of the league's GMs.

Isn't it possible to trade for him to save money over free agency? His cap hit the next 2 seasons is acceptable for an average starting QB. Obviously you don't give up much, but I could make a case for it.
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Post by salz4life » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:29 am

I just don't understand who would give up something for Jay Cutler. I guess there is a *** somewhere.... but after what I've seen, I wouldn't.
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salz4life wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:29 am
I just don't understand who would give up something for Jay Cutler. I guess there is a *** somewhere.... but after what I've seen, I wouldn't.
Especially since his cap hit for next year is like 15 mil.

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Post by Redbird CC Fan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:23 pm

$16 mil is 22nd or so for NFL QB's. If you trade a lower round pick for him you get him for market value without any future cap consideration as all the guaranteed money is paid out already. Not saying anyone will trade for him, but the contract actually makes it a possibility.
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Post by Redbird CC Fan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:00 pm

Heard an interesting idea to sign Glennon as a serviceable bridge and drafting a QB. Mahomes had a good combine so I'm not sure he would be available in the second round.
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Re: 2017 Bears Draft....

Post by Mike Radigan » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:48 am

Bears agree to three-year deal with quarterback Mike Glennon.

Article.

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Post by Redbird CC Fan » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:37 am

Mike Radigan wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:48 am
Bears agree to three-year deal with quarterback Mike Glennon.

Article.
Interesting they are reported to pay a minimum of $14.5 million per year for the 3 years. I agree is good to go a little younger, but it isn't much different than the Cutler money for those indicating he was overpaid.
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Re: 2017 Bears Draft....

Post by wolverine55 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:22 pm

The ones saying Cutler was overpaid either didn't understand the way his contract was structured or the current market of NFL QB salaries or both.
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Post by TheAsianSensation » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:57 pm

Mike Radigan wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:48 am
Bears agree to three-year deal with quarterback Mike Glennon.

Article.
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