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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by JMM28 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:45 pm

Don’t understand the Heyward move. With an extra deep bench, why not just go Schwarber there and then use him to double switch out next inning.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by tombs14 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:48 pm

Another review that should overturn the umps original call.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by tombs14 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:50 pm

tombs14 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:48 pm
Another review that should overturn the umps original call.
Or not. Wow

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by JMM28 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:51 pm

tombs14 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:50 pm
tombs14 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:48 pm
Another review that should overturn the umps original call.
Or not. Wow
Ive never thought pro sports were fixed but that’s pretty impressive.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by Reggie » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:33 pm

Too bad Lester was not given the same strike zone that Wade Davis got.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by Reggie » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:52 pm

Frustrating as Hendricks did not need to throw a strike and he kept missing his spots.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by Reggie » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:04 am

Rockies by far the more intelligent team tonight.

And this plate umpire is awful. K-Zone, please.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by TheAsianSensation » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:08 am

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That's enough, Chris Webber.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by Reggie » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:10 am

Season on the line and the Cubs score two runs in 22 innings at Wrigley Field. Just pathetic. The pitching was very good and deserved better.

Makes the think the Cubs are the mid 80’s Bears where you thought they were primed for multiple championships but it never happened. Lots of changes likely heading into next year. Looking back the decision to keep Schwarber really hamstrung this franchise as now they would not get a half-eaten bagel for a guy who is a part-time player.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by tombs14 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:25 am

Reggie wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:10 am
Season on the line and the Cubs score two runs in 22 innings at Wrigley Field. Just pathetic. The pitching was very good and deserved better.

Makes the think the Cubs are the mid 80’s Bears where you thought they were primed for multiple championships but it never happened. Lots of changes likely heading into next year. Looking back the decision to keep Schwarber really hamstrung this franchise as now they would not get a half-eaten bagel for a guy who is a part-time player.
By no means am I upset with the Starting Pitching, but it's funny that the runs given up last night were not by the traditional bullpen.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by deejay » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:11 am

There are lots of things to address this off season. If you look back, Brewers went out and got Cain and Yelich to go 1-2 in their lineup. We missed out on both because we were sure that Happ and Schwarber would have breakout seasons. That unfortunately didnt happen. I am not sure how many changes we made to this year, but i am not sure we ever had the same 1-2 punch for multiple games very often. Without someone at the top of the lineup to set the table we will continue to be the second best team in our division.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by BU1987 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:38 am

Just awesome to see.............Fly that L flag

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by deejay » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:04 pm

Listening to Chicago Sports today, many are calling for Joe’s firing. This is not all Joe’s doing. I would say using Morrow when you have a 5 run lead or letting Strop hit, then losing him is on Joe, but players not performing is not his issue. Also a lot of talk that Bryant’s issue is “mental”, and goes deeper than the shoulder problem.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by jim beam » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:29 pm

I suspect that if you listened to sports talk in any market after a team with high expectations season ends, there would be some clamoring for heads to roll, That's the nature of the beast. I happen to think Maddon is pretty good manager and that the Cubs are a danged good team. I think the Rockies and Brewers are better but not Atlanta/ So in my book the Cubs are the 3rd best team in the NL this year.

Congrats to Cub fans on a great season though, I was pulling for them. I think the post season is always more fun when the Cubs are in it
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by Redbird CC Fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:48 pm

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2488 ... ob-sources

I know there have been questions about Maddon's decisions at times, but are there legitimate thoughts he wouldn't be retained that such a statement needs to be made?
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by real fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:58 pm

deejay wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:04 pm
Listening to Chicago Sports today, many are calling for Joe’s firing. This is not all Joe’s doing. I would say using Morrow when you have a 5 run lead or letting Strop hit, then losing him is on Joe, but players not performing is not his issue. Also a lot of talk that Bryant’s issue is “mental”, and goes deeper than the shoulder problem.
Does anybody think that opposing pitchers have figured out how to get Bryant out a nd this injury excuse is not the reason. The other thing about bad umpiring when Lester was given 2 strikes that were balls in the first inning when the Rockies had a man on third with one out, if they were balls the Rockies would have had a much better chance at getting that 2nd run from home. I agree that umpires for the most part are just bad at calling balls and strikes. That game last night was lost because of the lack of clutch hitting. Heywards at bat was pathetic considering how much money he is being paid. Hard to understand why anybody would ever use him as a pinch hitter in a crucial at bat.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by real fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:06 pm

Redbird CC Fan wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:48 pm
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2488 ... ob-sources

I know there have been questions about Maddon's decisions at times, but are there legitimate thoughts he wouldn't be retained that such a statement needs to be made?
Depends on what Theo thinks in going forward. The Nationals fired Dusty last year and they missed the playoffs this year. The Yankees fired Joe last season after they won 90 plus games and hired Bret and they won more this season. The difference for the Yankees is they have better personnel this season. I would say Maddons deal could go either way, I would bet on him being in Chicago next season unless the Angels offer a lot more money.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by JD » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:09 pm

I don't know how you can blame Joe for the team not hitting.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by tombs14 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:12 pm

Redbird CC Fan wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:48 pm
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2488 ... ob-sources

I know there have been questions about Maddon's decisions at times, but are there legitimate thoughts he wouldn't be retained that such a statement needs to be made?
It depends how much stock you put in his decisions that caused 1) players to be injured (Morrow, Strop) or 2) systematically pulling starters to have a weak bullpen immediately blow the game. These are not low risk decisions, they tangibly altered the results of current or future games/available roster.

And like others said - Hitting is problem #2. Which falls on those players and Chili Davis. (See what happened to Boston before, during, after him)

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by deejay » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:24 pm

I also think that Joe will stay, but with only one year left the Angels could make a push for him. Then Girardi could be in the picture. Don’t see that scenario playing out, but who knows anymore.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by tombs14 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:35 pm

deejay wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:24 pm
I also think that Joe will stay, but with only one year left the Angels could make a push for him. Then Girardi could be in the picture. Don’t see that scenario playing out, but who knows anymore.
Joe interviewed for the Red's job today....that isn't something I'm OK with ;)

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by real fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:13 pm

JD wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:09 pm
I don't know how you can blame Joe for the team not hitting.
Blaming anyone other then the player for their lack of hitting make 0 sense. The guy at the plate is the only one that has control at that time on whether or not he is successful.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by tribecalledquest » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:15 pm

As a Cardinal fan I would be tickled pink if the Cubs swapped Joe Maddon for Joe Girardi.
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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by JMM28 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:19 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:15 pm
As a Cardinal fan I would be tickled pink if the Cubs swapped Joe Maddon for Joe Girardi.
As a Cubs fan, I would be equally as untickled pink.

Maddon is a good manager. He just won a world series 2 years ago now. He has won 90+ games. Its ridiculous to even have the conversation of him not being the Cubs manager.

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Re: Chicago Cubs 2018

Post by PH » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:31 pm

From my small Facebook sample size, it seems the same people that were anti-Maddon until Zobrist’s game 7 RBI double, (ie thought Joe did a horrible job in 2015 and blamed Joe for the Cubs 2016 All Star slump..) are the same people calling for Maddon to be fired, now.
It’s OK to disagree with his coaching style, but you are crazy to think his on-the-job performance this year has been terrible.

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