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Re: Cubs

Post by tombs14 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:07 am

The current years record would be an A+, non-complainable, in most years. It only seems to be non-acceptable because of 2 factors:

1) Brewers have a better record
2) The Cubs Starters give up too many early runs, putting pressure on the hitters to always come back in the game. There are numerous games that the offense would have been enough, had the Starters not given up 2-4 runs in the 1st or 2nd innings.

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Re: Cubs

Post by squirrel » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:37 am

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The current years record would be an A+, non-complainable, in most years. It only seems to be non-acceptable because of 2 factors:

1) Brewers have a better record
2) The Cubs Starters give up too many early runs, putting pressure on the hitters to always come back in the game. There are numerous games that the offense would have been enough, had the Starters not given up 2-4 runs in the 1st or 2nd innings.
Pretty fair. It's also true that when the starting pitching has been good and not given up runs, the offense has sputtered quite a bit. But record-wise the team is still nearly on par with the 2016 team-the difference is the Cubs are still chasing a team.That team also had 3 pitchers finish in the top 10 for Cy Young voting. Even that Class A hack Lester, who finished second in the tally that year. ;)

Also to that and your point about the Brewers they are also on pace with the 2016 Cubs, give or take a few games. The 2016 Cubs won 102 games and had a losing record in July.

It's also easy to be distracted by the records the AL leaders are putting up, but that has zero bearing on the NL. Both the Cubs and Brewers will likely finish around 100 wins this year, and whoever wins the division will be in a strong position for home field advantage up to the WS.

I also think people are frustrated because it's the Brewers, but they are legit.
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:31 pm

squirrel wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:37 am
tombs14 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:07 am
The current years record would be an A+, non-complainable, in most years. It only seems to be non-acceptable because of 2 factors:

1) Brewers have a better record
2) The Cubs Starters give up too many early runs, putting pressure on the hitters to always come back in the game. There are numerous games that the offense would have been enough, had the Starters not given up 2-4 runs in the 1st or 2nd innings.
Pretty fair. It's also true that when the starting pitching has been good and not given up runs, the offense has sputtered quite a bit. But record-wise the team is still nearly on par with the 2016 team-the difference is the Cubs are still chasing a team.That team also had 3 pitchers finish in the top 10 for Cy Young voting. Even that Class A hack Lester, who finished second in the tally that year. ;)

Also to that and your point about the Brewers they are also on pace with the 2016 Cubs, give or take a few games. The 2016 Cubs won 102 games and had a losing record in July.

It's also easy to be distracted by the records the AL leaders are putting up, but that has zero bearing on the NL. Both the Cubs and Brewers will likely finish around 100 wins this year, and whoever wins the division will be in a strong position for home field advantage up to the WS.

I also think people are frustrated because it's the Brewers, but they are legit.
I agree with both of you. tombs I'm also frustrated by the early runs that have been given up, but besides Lester I think all the rest of the starters can show improvement. They really have to be better or their bullpen who has been so good will go down in flames. Theo knows he can't really trade for a starter because he has to trust that Darvish will come back and at least be a # 4 starter for this year. Chatwood has about 3 more starts to improve or he might be in AAA when Darvish comes back. With all of this said I still think the Cubs are the best team in the division and just like last year they will find a way to slowly put distance between them and the Brewers. It has been another fun year so far!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:29 pm

2015 53-47 Lost in NLCS
2016 60-40 Won World Series
2017 53-47 Lost in NLCS
2018 58-42

With the injuries the Cubs have had along with the inconsistent starters I'm actually pretty happy with the team being 16 games over .500. I still don't see the Cubs making any major move before the trade deadline. The bullpen continues to be the strength of this team and the offense has been very good, so hopefully the starters can begin to carry their part of the load. Still like the Cubs chances on winning the division and best record in the NL. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:36 pm

2015 62-48 Lost NLCS
2016 69-41 Won World Series
2017 58-52 Lost NLCS
2018 64-46

Well the Cubs went 6-4 in their last 10, even though it looked a lot worse. Was very glad to see Hamels have a nice start and Q did the same. Lester needs to do what he has all year and Hendricks needs to be a little better. Same story all year, the starters need to be much better down the stretch. The Cubs have a long road trip in early September and need to start putting a little distance between them and the group chasing them. On a side note Wade Davis is just horrible! Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:17 pm

2015 69-51
2016 77-43
2017 63-57
2018 70-50

6-4 through 10 again and a season high 20 games over. Really great to see Lester look so good tonight and the bullpen does it again, closing the game out. Even Wilson got a big out for the Cubs yesterday. Really looking forward to seeing Hamels pitch again tomorrow night. If he can even come close to what he has done for the Cubs the rest of the year I really like their chances to take best record in the NL and then as we know anything can happen, especially in the NL this year. The offense can definitely be better, just need a few more of the hitters to get going. What a surprise Zobrist has been for me this year. 42 games to go and looks like the DL players are getting closer to coming back. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:24 pm

2015 74-56
2016 83-47
2017 70-60
2018 77-53

7-3 through this 10 game stretch and the starters looked very good for a nice change. I know I’m going to be a happy Cub fan as long as Theo is calling the shots in Chicago. Not happy with the starters so he goes and gets Hamels. Not happy with the offense so he finds a bat in Murphy. Even if there are years they don’t make the playoffs, it isn’t going to be because of Theo standing still and not trying to make the team better. The upcoming 11 game road trip still worries me, but if they can find a way to survive it and keep their current lead they should be good to go for a 4th straight playoff run. Looks like Bryant will probably be back Saturday at the latest and hoping to see Morrow not long after that. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:08 pm

2015 82-58 Lost in NLCS
2016 90-50 Won World Series
2017 77-63 Lost in NLCS
2018 83-57

Another 6-4 out of 10 stretch. A couple more like that and we can get ready for the playoffs. Also a nice 5-3 start to the road trip. Joe has been putting Wilson in a lot of tight spots in the last couple weeks and he has rewarded Joe with getting some huge outs. For all the Cubs fans that have been ready to give up on this team numerous times this year, remember it is a marathon season. I've even learned over the last 4 years to not get as mad at bad losses during the regular season. Should be a fun and hopefully not to stressful final 22 games and then hoping for another deep playoff run. NL playoffs should be wide open. Go Cubs!!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:28 pm

Well 5-5 through that 10 game stretch and the Cubs sit at 88-62. The starters have been sensational recently, which gives me high hopes for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. The bullpen continues to be very good, even when they have sent out relievers who normally wouldn’t be seen in high pressure situations. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:25 pm

2015 90-65 Wild Card team. Lost in NLCS.
2016 99-56 Won Division. World Series Champs.
2017 87-68 Won Division. Lost in NLCS
2018 91-64

Getting closer to their 3rd straight divisional title. I really find it hard to believe that the Cubs are going to be in the playoffs for the 4th straight year. Just need to take care of business at home and then see what happens. Getting the first win against the Pirates tomorrow night would sure be nice! Overall the starters have looked so much better and the bullpen has been solid all year. Just need the bats to come through and this is another year they could go deep. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a Dodgers-Cubs part 3 Series. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:44 pm

2015 95-65 Wild Card team. Lost in NLCS.
2016 102-58 Won Division. World Series Champs.
2017 91-69 Won Division Lost in NLCS
2018 94-66 ?????

Well this has been fun. The Cubs picked a good day for their bats to come alive and I thought it was huge for Bryant to hit a long home run. I'm not sure Detroit is capable of winning a game this weekend, so the Cubs need to end the season on a 5 game winning streak. I have really enjoyed this season, I think mainly because of overcoming injuries and a very inconsistent rotation for most the year. Things that really didn't happen the last 3 years. 2 more games and either a division title, division playoff game or wild card game. I would say the odds would be close to the same for the first two. Go Cubs!!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:47 pm

The last 2 games last year was a tough way to end the season and a very quiet off season.

I wasn’t surprised they didn’t make a major move but I was very surprised they didn’t get at least one of their players extended. In 3 years most the young players on this team will be gone. Here is my list of players I think they should extend. My list is not only who but I ranked them also on who I think would take an extension.

1) Hendricks
2) Baez
3) Rizzo
4) Contreras
5) Bryant

Ready for opening day. My prediction is the Cubs win the division by 2 games.
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Post by soccerforever » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:27 pm

Well number one on my list was accomplished. Doubt they will get another one done but very happy with Hendricks getting his extension!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:21 pm

2015 6-4 Lost in NLCS
2016 8-2 World Series Champs
2017 6-4 Lost in NLCS
2018 5-5 Lost in Wild Card game
2019 3-7

Not happy with the start but this is not 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 years ago where I would of said we are done again. Very happy with the offense and Bryant and Rizzo hasn’t heated up yet. Relievers are always a crap shoot and time will tell if this is the demise of the team. Starters have been inconsistent early but I will wait until 50 games in to see who is good and who is bad. Lester has earned every penny of his contract, I think I have said that every year at some point. Hopefully today is just a minor issue. The Cubs had to send down Happ and Edwards when they did. Hope to see them be a contributor later in the season. I find it funny when I read that Strop should be sent down. He has been very consistent since being on the Cubs and has been thrown into the closer role on more then one occasion, when that wasn’t what he was signed to do. Baseball is always a marathon and I will make sure to watch every game I can and see where they are around the 50 game mark. Too many spoiled Cubs fans shoot their mouths off when all this team has done is win the last 4 years. Let the season be more then 1/16th done before calling it a season. Go Cubs!!
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Re: Cubs

Post by jim beam » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:09 pm

You kno there's a 2019 thread going?.. that's probably why you're talking to yourself here
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:22 pm

Just a 5th year view of the team and organization every 10 games. I never post day to day items during the season and average 3000 views per post. Someone is enjoying it.
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Post by jim beam » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:18 am

Ok, good for you. I wasn't being critical, I just noticed that there weren't responses and thought you might not know about the other thread. Carry on
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:39 pm

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Ok, good for you. I wasn't being critical, I just noticed that there weren't responses and thought you might not know about the other thread. Carry on
I’m sorry if I came across in a smart### way. You have always been fair on these boards. The daily thread has one poster who complains every year and not a lot else going on. I’ve always enjoyed posting here for the last 5 years. Like I said I stay away from most daily activity and just jump in every 10 games.
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:19 pm

2015 12-8 Lost in NLCS
2016 15-5 Won World Series
2017 12-8 Lost in NLCS
2018 11-9 Lost in WC game
2019 10-10

The last 10 games were much better. I am actually surprised they are doing this without Bryant and Rizzo contributing much yet, but also know Heyward can’t keep up his pace. Probably can also put Contreras in that category. Hamel and Q has pitched very well and looks like Lester will be back later this week. Was very nice to see Hendricks pitch well in his last start and Darvish has to be better. I never saw a great start coming from Chatwood today. The bullpen is still a crap shoot but that seems to be the case all around baseball this year. Not sure what to think after 20 games but still expect the division to be close most the year. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Sat May 04, 2019 9:10 pm

13-3 in their last 16 and 6 wins in a row. The Cubs were never as bad as their first 10 games and probably not as good as their last 10. That being said, lately they seem to do what is necessary to win. Even today they get a grand slam from a player without a homer run and a bullpen who pitched 5 strong innings. Baez has been incredible and as always it is an honor to watch Lester pitch. Most fans know baseball is a marathon and when the next bad streak comes, hopefully the silly talk about this team from the first 10 games doesn’t return.

2015 15-15 Lost NLCS
2016 24-6 Won World Series
2017 16-14 Lost NLCS
2018 16-14 Lost wild card game
2019 18-12
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Sat May 25, 2019 7:44 pm

2015 27-23 Lost in NLCS
2016 35-15 Won World Series
2017 25-25 Lost in NLCS
2018 28-22 Lost in Wild Card
2019 30-20

Can’t believe the season is almost 1/3 done. Each year since 2015 there has been highs and lows with every team but somehow they found a way to make it into the playoffs. This years team is no different and I’m actually surprised at this point of the season it is the Cubs 2nd best record during that span. The Dodgers seems to to be the best team in the NL at this point, with the Cubs a little behind.

The offense has been playoff ready most the season, with the starters not far behind. Joe has moved the relievers around most the year and it seems about 50/50 on whether it works or not. Of course that can’t continue and I am sure Theo will make a move when the time is right. With all that being said they currently have a 2.5 game lead in the division. Could it of been a bigger lead, of course it could but all teams have bad losses during an 162 game season. The Cubs just need to lessen theirs. Very surprised by the current state of the Cards team.

I still look back at the first post of this thread and who knew how right JD was going to be.

Nice get with Lester. Theo has been patient but the Cubs are starting to look legit. 2016 could be a playoff year if their prospects develop and they can add a few more pieces!

2015 looks a heckuva lot better too!
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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:35 pm

2015 33-27 Lost in NLCS
2016 42-18 Won World Series
2017 30-30 Lost in NLCS
2018 36-24 Lost in Wild Card
2019 34-26

There was a lot of talk before the season how the division was going to be tough because everyone was going to be better. 60 games in I think every team in the division has major weaknesses. How in the world does the Marlins hammer the Brewers in back to back games in Milwaukee? With that said I think Yu is getting better if you take out the wind blown game. I’m also happy to see Strop back and who saw the Cubs signing Kimbrel? Theo saw what the Cubs needs were as he has done in the past and made an aggressive move. Zobrist leaving the team actually freed up the money for this year. I had posted this before but it was a smart move by the Cubs signing Bote long term to replace Zobrist in future years as a super utility player. Still over 100 games left and overall I’m happy where the Cubs are sitting right now. First team to 90 games wins the division? Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

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2015 33-27 Lost in NLCS
2016 42-18 Won World Series
2017 30-30 Lost in NLCS
2018 36-24 Lost in Wild Card
2019 34-26

There was a lot of talk before the season how the division was going to be tough because everyone was going to be better. 60 games in I think every team in the division has major weaknesses. How in the world does the Marlins hammer the Brewers in back to back games in Milwaukee? With that said I think Yu is getting better if you take out the wind blown game. I’m also happy to see Strop back and who saw the Cubs signing Kimbrel? Theo saw what the Cubs needs were as he has done in the past and made an aggressive move. Zobrist leaving the team actually freed up the money for this year. I had posted this before but it was a smart move by the Cubs signing Bote long term to replace Zobrist in future years as a super utility player. Still over 100 games left and overall I’m happy where the Cubs are sitting right now. First team to 90 games wins the division? Go Cubs!
Without knowing, I'm guessing there were hints at Zobrist situation in the beginning of the season that Theo & Co jumped on to make that offer to lock up Bote.

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Re: Cubs

Post by soccerforever » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:46 pm

2015 37-31 Lost in NLCS
2016 47-23 Won World Series
2017 36-34 Lost in NLCS
2018 41-29 Lost in Wild Card
2019 39-31

10 more games off the schedule and not a lot has really changed. Each team is showing why the division will probably be tight all year. This current 7 game road trip looked tough going in but leading the first 2 games in LA and the starters not being able to hold it really hurt. Hoping Hendricks only misses a couple starts but it gives Chatwood another chance to see what he can do. After the game tonight the Cubs have an upcoming schedule that they need to take advantage of. Go Cubs!
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Re: Cubs

Post by GlassOfMarleau » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:54 am

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Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:46 pm
2015 37-31 Lost in NLCS
2016 47-23 Won World Series
2017 36-34 Lost in NLCS
2018 41-29 Lost in Wild Card
2019 39-31

10 more games off the schedule and not a lot has really changed. Each team is showing why the division will probably be tight all year. This current 7 game road trip looked tough going in but leading the first 2 games in LA and the starters not being able to hold it really hurt. Hoping Hendricks only misses a couple starts but it gives Chatwood another chance to see what he can do. After the game tonight the Cubs have an upcoming schedule that they need to take advantage of. Go Cubs!
You don't think Alzolay is going to get the chance over Chatwood? Chatwood's ERA is okay but his advanced metrics are still garbage

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